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		<title>Comment on Moving RAID 10 from one Dell R410 to another by tin</title>
		<link>http://blog.tinle.org/2010/02/14/moving-raid-10-from-one-dell-r410-to-another/comment-page-1/#comment-540</link>
		<dc:creator>tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-537&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Benjamin Franz&lt;/a&gt; 
Thanks for the script.  I am moving my infrastructure to Xen, going away from VMWare.  Almost completed with migration now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-537" rel="nofollow">@Benjamin Franz</a><br />
Thanks for the script.  I am moving my infrastructure to Xen, going away from VMWare.  Almost completed with migration now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moving RAID 10 from one Dell R410 to another by tin</title>
		<link>http://blog.tinle.org/2010/02/14/moving-raid-10-from-one-dell-r410-to-another/comment-page-1/#comment-539</link>
		<dc:creator>tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is another option, I would not use it on servers, but I am surprised at how well it run.  VirtualBox.

Funny enough, for more than a year now, I&#039;ve been using a Macbook Pro.  Didn&#039;t want Parallel or VMWare, heard about VirtualBox and tried it.  It&#039;s been surprisingly usable.  I can exchange vmdk&#039;s back and forth with VMWare.

I know Sun sells it on their servers as an alternative to VMWare and Xen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another option, I would not use it on servers, but I am surprised at how well it run.  VirtualBox.</p>
<p>Funny enough, for more than a year now, I&#8217;ve been using a Macbook Pro.  Didn&#8217;t want Parallel or VMWare, heard about VirtualBox and tried it.  It&#8217;s been surprisingly usable.  I can exchange vmdk&#8217;s back and forth with VMWare.</p>
<p>I know Sun sells it on their servers as an alternative to VMWare and Xen.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moving RAID 10 from one Dell R410 to another by tin</title>
		<link>http://blog.tinle.org/2010/02/14/moving-raid-10-from-one-dell-r410-to-another/comment-page-1/#comment-538</link>
		<dc:creator>tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, KVM is interesting.  I&#039;d like to see some seasonings on it though :-).  Probably put it up on a non-essential service for a while and see how it behave.

The thing about automatic init scripts is... well, it&#039;s automatic script and things can go wrong.  I supposed for true production servers, you can have multiple failovers and load balancing, so you can take one down and work on it without affecting the rest.

Let me know if you try out KVM.  I am moving things to EC2, time to roll up my sleeves and write a bunch of automation scripts.  What they have there.... need work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, KVM is interesting.  I&#8217;d like to see some seasonings on it though <img src='http://blog.tinle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  Probably put it up on a non-essential service for a while and see how it behave.</p>
<p>The thing about automatic init scripts is&#8230; well, it&#8217;s automatic script and things can go wrong.  I supposed for true production servers, you can have multiple failovers and load balancing, so you can take one down and work on it without affecting the rest.</p>
<p>Let me know if you try out KVM.  I am moving things to EC2, time to roll up my sleeves and write a bunch of automation scripts.  What they have there&#8230;. need work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moving RAID 10 from one Dell R410 to another by Benjamin Franz</title>
		<link>http://blog.tinle.org/2010/02/14/moving-raid-10-from-one-dell-r410-to-another/comment-page-1/#comment-537</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Franz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My init scripts are derived from http://www.tuxyturvy.com/blog/index.php?/archives/48-Automating-VMware-modules-reinstall-after-Linux-kernel-upgrades.html with some small tweaks to make them regular init scripts:

For the host:

#!/bin/bash

#
# config-vmware      Reconfigures the VMware modules after kernel upgrades as needed
#
# chkconfig: - 09 09
# description: Reconfigures the VMware modules after a kernel upgrade as needed


# Reinstall the VMware modules as needed
if [ ! -e /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc/.vmware_installed ]; then
        /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl --default EULA_AGREED=yes
        touch /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc/.vmware_installed
fi

For the VMs themselves:

#!/bin/bash
#
# config-vmware-tools      Reconfigures the VMwareTools modules after kernel upgrades 
#
# chkconfig: - 09 09
# description: Reconfigures the VMwareTools modules after a kernel upgrade 


# Following lines auto-recompile VM Tools when kernel updated
VMToolsCheckFile=&quot;/lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc/.vmware_installed&quot;
VMToolsVersion=`vmware-config-tools.pl --help 2&gt;&amp;1 &#124; awk &#039;$0 ~ /^VMware Tools [0-9]/ { print $3,$4 }&#039;`

printf &quot;\nCurrent VM Tools version: $VMToolsVersion\n\n&quot;

if [[ ! -e $VMToolsCheckFile &#124;&#124; `grep -c &quot;$VMToolsVersion&quot; $VMToolsCheckFile` -eq 0 ]]; then
[ -x /usr/bin/vmware-config-tools.pl ] &amp;&amp; \
printf &quot;Automatically compiling new build of VMware Tools\n\n&quot; &amp;&amp; \
/usr/bin/vmware-config-tools.pl --default &amp;&amp; \
printf &quot;$VMToolsVersion&quot; &gt; $VMToolsCheckFile &amp;&amp; \
rmmod pcnet32
rmmod vmxnet
depmod -a
modprobe vmxnet
fi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My init scripts are derived from <a href="http://www.tuxyturvy.com/blog/index.php?/archives/48-Automating-VMware-modules-reinstall-after-Linux-kernel-upgrades.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tuxyturvy.com/blog/index.php?/archives/48-Automating-VMware-modules-reinstall-after-Linux-kernel-upgrades.html</a> with some small tweaks to make them regular init scripts:</p>
<p>For the host:</p>
<p>#!/bin/bash</p>
<p>#<br />
# config-vmware      Reconfigures the VMware modules after kernel upgrades as needed<br />
#<br />
# chkconfig: &#8211; 09 09<br />
# description: Reconfigures the VMware modules after a kernel upgrade as needed</p>
<p># Reinstall the VMware modules as needed<br />
if [ ! -e /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc/.vmware_installed ]; then<br />
        /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl &#8211;default EULA_AGREED=yes<br />
        touch /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc/.vmware_installed<br />
fi</p>
<p>For the VMs themselves:</p>
<p>#!/bin/bash<br />
#<br />
# config-vmware-tools      Reconfigures the VMwareTools modules after kernel upgrades<br />
#<br />
# chkconfig: &#8211; 09 09<br />
# description: Reconfigures the VMwareTools modules after a kernel upgrade </p>
<p># Following lines auto-recompile VM Tools when kernel updated<br />
VMToolsCheckFile=&#8221;/lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc/.vmware_installed&#8221;<br />
VMToolsVersion=`vmware-config-tools.pl &#8211;help 2&gt;&amp;1 | awk &#8216;$0 ~ /^VMware Tools [0-9]/ { print $3,$4 }&#8217;`</p>
<p>printf &#8220;\nCurrent VM Tools version: $VMToolsVersion\n\n&#8221;</p>
<p>if [[ ! -e $VMToolsCheckFile || `grep -c "$VMToolsVersion" $VMToolsCheckFile` -eq 0 ]]; then<br />
[ -x /usr/bin/vmware-config-tools.pl ] &amp;&amp; \<br />
printf &#8220;Automatically compiling new build of VMware Tools\n\n&#8221; &amp;&amp; \<br />
/usr/bin/vmware-config-tools.pl &#8211;default &amp;&amp; \<br />
printf &#8220;$VMToolsVersion&#8221; &gt; $VMToolsCheckFile &amp;&amp; \<br />
rmmod pcnet32<br />
rmmod vmxnet<br />
depmod -a<br />
modprobe vmxnet<br />
fi</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moving RAID 10 from one Dell R410 to another by Benjamin Franz</title>
		<link>http://blog.tinle.org/2010/02/14/moving-raid-10-from-one-dell-r410-to-another/comment-page-1/#comment-536</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Franz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 15:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried Xen a bit over a year ago, but it had some issues with bonded ethernet interfaces. And it actually caused a kernel panic for the host a couple of times.

I fixed the vmware-config issues here by writing some init scripts to run it automatically as needed.

I&#039;m leaning towards KVM over Xen now because it is clearly where RH is going with their support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried Xen a bit over a year ago, but it had some issues with bonded ethernet interfaces. And it actually caused a kernel panic for the host a couple of times.</p>
<p>I fixed the vmware-config issues here by writing some init scripts to run it automatically as needed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m leaning towards KVM over Xen now because it is clearly where RH is going with their support.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moving RAID 10 from one Dell R410 to another by tin</title>
		<link>http://blog.tinle.org/2010/02/14/moving-raid-10-from-one-dell-r410-to-another/comment-page-1/#comment-535</link>
		<dc:creator>tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 15:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should take a look at Xen.  I am using VMWare now, but not too happy with it.  As far back as two years ago, I&#039;ve gotten Xen to boot and run pretty much anything I threw at it - Linux, BSD and Win2K8 (even Vista).

The thing I like most about Xen is kernel updates come with compiled drivers, so I don&#039;t have to run vmware-config everytime.  I can&#039;t count the times my SAs reboot a system and forgot to re-run vmware-config, then the VMs are down for hours.

KVM is good, but the important thing to look at is the supporting tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should take a look at Xen.  I am using VMWare now, but not too happy with it.  As far back as two years ago, I&#8217;ve gotten Xen to boot and run pretty much anything I threw at it &#8211; Linux, BSD and Win2K8 (even Vista).</p>
<p>The thing I like most about Xen is kernel updates come with compiled drivers, so I don&#8217;t have to run vmware-config everytime.  I can&#8217;t count the times my SAs reboot a system and forgot to re-run vmware-config, then the VMs are down for hours.</p>
<p>KVM is good, but the important thing to look at is the supporting tools.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moving RAID 10 from one Dell R410 to another by Benjamin Franz</title>
		<link>http://blog.tinle.org/2010/02/14/moving-raid-10-from-one-dell-r410-to-another/comment-page-1/#comment-534</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Franz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 14:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-533&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@tin&lt;/a&gt; 

VMware Server 2. 

I&#039;m looking at KVM for the longer term. VMServer2 has unfixed problems such as creeping CPU load requiring the VMs to be stopped completely and restarted periodically and Glibc version incompatibilities. VMware seems to have unoffically orphaned VMServer2 in favor of ESXi.

I looked at ESXi, but it is too finicky about supported hardware and is really just a loss leader for them to get you to buy the expensive management tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-533" rel="nofollow">@tin</a> </p>
<p>VMware Server 2. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking at KVM for the longer term. VMServer2 has unfixed problems such as creeping CPU load requiring the VMs to be stopped completely and restarted periodically and Glibc version incompatibilities. VMware seems to have unoffically orphaned VMServer2 in favor of ESXi.</p>
<p>I looked at ESXi, but it is too finicky about supported hardware and is really just a loss leader for them to get you to buy the expensive management tools.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moving RAID 10 from one Dell R410 to another by tin</title>
		<link>http://blog.tinle.org/2010/02/14/moving-raid-10-from-one-dell-r410-to-another/comment-page-1/#comment-533</link>
		<dc:creator>tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 06:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you using Xen? or VMWARE?

I have a bunch of VMs, but only for small stuffs.  Our production eats memory for snack.

&quot;Feed me Seymour!&quot; ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you using Xen? or VMWARE?</p>
<p>I have a bunch of VMs, but only for small stuffs.  Our production eats memory for snack.</p>
<p>&#8220;Feed me Seymour!&#8221; <img src='http://blog.tinle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Moving RAID 10 from one Dell R410 to another by Benjamin Franz</title>
		<link>http://blog.tinle.org/2010/02/14/moving-raid-10-from-one-dell-r410-to-another/comment-page-1/#comment-532</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Franz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 01:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-531&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Tin Le&lt;/a&gt; 

I&#039;m running Nixsys branded Supermicro stuff with CentOS 5.4 for the most part. But only at single board server densities. Lot&#039;s of VMs though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-531" rel="nofollow">@Tin Le</a> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m running Nixsys branded Supermicro stuff with CentOS 5.4 for the most part. But only at single board server densities. Lot&#8217;s of VMs though.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moving RAID 10 from one Dell R410 to another by Tin Le</title>
		<link>http://blog.tinle.org/2010/02/14/moving-raid-10-from-one-dell-r410-to-another/comment-page-1/#comment-531</link>
		<dc:creator>Tin Le</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-530&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Benjamin Franz&lt;/a&gt; 

Yeah, I have so much Dell hw here... legacy and all that.  I am experimenting with Supermicro&#039;s (Silicon Mechanics branded) servers.  Their 4-in-1 2U systems are sweet.  Essentially miniblade servers.

Heh, all my servers are CentOS 5.4, except for some legacies that are still at 4.x.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-530" rel="nofollow">@Benjamin Franz</a> </p>
<p>Yeah, I have so much Dell hw here&#8230; legacy and all that.  I am experimenting with Supermicro&#8217;s (Silicon Mechanics branded) servers.  Their 4-in-1 2U systems are sweet.  Essentially miniblade servers.</p>
<p>Heh, all my servers are CentOS 5.4, except for some legacies that are still at 4.x.</p>
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